meh first time. funny thing is it was in one of those dead regions in a dead end system. with no fkin station.

Btw did you know that 1400mm arty has truly atrocious tracking? Try orbiting your can at 2500m or so. It makes a surprising difference.

eject can, tractor with orca

not hard

Hmm I tried it and it works like a charm. I did not even put a script.
Also, I tried the opposite, that is being the guy orbiting the can. Takes a LIFETIME to invert direction and align to station / safe spot, so non afk mining becomes much less useful.





Bad suggestion.

1) Friends don't generally stick to a pathetic exhumer for 8 hours a day. They can give you an hand some times but it's too much to do it every day. Also, the already low income per account becomes factually split in half.

2) Mercs, some hire them. I see them every day. They want good money to sit there for the whole day of course and mining income <> incursion income. Plus - and this will become a LOT more evident with the new wardec system - mercs are basically useless for this.

The suicide ganker goes close to target in a cloakie, then warps in 2 catalysts / whatever required to alpha or quasi-alpha the target. Then spams warp to celestial. The merc can do just so much to avoid the target death. When the new wardecs system will be in place it'll be the same: you spend the money to pay the mercs yet you *still* cannot leave the station because you'll still be popped in anything fragile (like industrial ships). The wardeccer objective - having kills and disrupting the corporation - will perfectly work even with mercs around. Mercs will just eventually insure revenge but disruption is still unavoidable.
In the new system have i.e. Orca + 4 macks. You get wardec. Even with mercs around, the wardeccing corp WILL just come in with 2 disco battleships and WILL melt the macks => defending mercs will be useless => corp is disrupted with no defense even if they abide to the new rules and pay mercs.

3) One decent BC won't save anybody from an expendable ship scram put on the target.
If somebody REALLY wants to screw your operation they WILL. You can pay all the money you want, you can fit whatever you want, you can hire whoever you want, you WILL be disrupted.


Give it few days and people will learn to stay docked in stations again and to fly completely crap fittings for maxed yield.
Outside Hulkageddon, being max yield fitted will vastly, massively outpace the loss of revenue you have by pretending an exhumer can resist a real attack and fitting it like a T80 tank gear... Hyunday.

Well in a wardec the attackers would not even need to suicide gank. They'd just need to do their job (call it suicide) before the mercs bring them down, if they do.

See, I reason by objectives.

Wardec from competitor corp means they want to disrupt my income / production / cycle / whatever.
If I don't spend a nickel, they will succeed at that. Till now it's all linear.

Now enter the new wardec mechanic. It should kinda be a "version 2" of the current system, i.e. have less open holes and more effectiveness at what covers.

What happens is that with the new wardec mechanic, I would be unable to dec shield (which is OK) but even using the new mechanic and paying a merc corp for me, the attackers STILL disrupt the income, production, cycle and whatever.

I mean, what's the point of a new mechanic if it does not introduce a new dimension of gameplay?

I want to be able to pay well and be defended in my interests. I mean, the PvP will happen so both attackers and defending mercs are happy (which is all nice and dandy) but I just paid for others to have fun (less nice but still OK) while I don't reap a single benefit (the part that I am not OK with).

Imagine what would happen in RL if you pay mercs to defend your camps / your cargo ships (vs sea pirates), the mercs shoot and "win" yet you lose both your camps and your ships. How longer would anybody care to still hire mercs if they lose all anyway?

Translated into EvE terms, how longer till industry corps (the huge majority of war targets) realize it's pointless to get defenders and thus make the whole new mechanic sit unused, while the industry corpies still stay docked for the wardec duration like now?